Bad Boy 8 fixie conversion

I would like to present to the world my latest and greatest bicycle, the Cannondale Bad Boy 8 fixie conversion. Its my first fixed wheel bike and I hope you'll agree she's a beauty.

I bought the Bad Boy 8 second hand off ebay for £550 which I felt was a fairly decent price as it had done a few hundred commuter miles but had been well cared for. It came with a bunch of extras including a decent bike lock and some top end commuter cateye lights.

After riding it for a while with the Shimano Alfine hub gears I decided they weren't for me. Had the rear wheel and hub been a lot lighter I might have been pursuaded to stick with it but due to the increased weight and the shiny silver hub on an otherwise matt black bike I decided it had to go.

I bought a Surly flip-flop hub, Surly cog and lockring from a really good guy who sells his stuff through ebay, Charlie the Bike Monger. He advised me on the correct parts to buy and which rim would fit the style of my bike. I decided on a Mavic A317 disc hub, a sturdy touring rim with a semi aero profile designed for disc brakes. It looks similar to my front rim and fits the all-black look of the bike.

Close-up shot of the fixed gear and hub

Beeline bicycles in Oxford built the wheel up using black DT Swiss 1.8 spokes in a 3 cross pattern. Although they did a good job in the end I wouldn't recommend them due to the lengthy miscommunications between their minions 'bike experts' on the shop floor and the bike mechanic. It took them about 3 weeks and four phone calls to make up the wheel which is pretty terrible really, especially when you're as excited as I was. Update: Beeline have read this article and requested I change the information to reflect what they believe happened. I find this insulting as this blog is about my personal experiences and if in my opinion Beeline Bicycles did a poor job I feel I have every right to write about it here.

Fitting the wheel was a little complex as the chain had to be tightened. The Bad Boy uses an eccentric bottom bracket to achieve chain tension so I had to work out how to do this with minimal documentation. Cannondale have an old pdf you can download explaining how the eccentric bottom bracket works, but it relates to their Tandem frames. The Bad Boy uses two wedges rather than the one shown on their pdf. Mine were slightly seized so I got the gas burner on them to heat them up and then tapper the screw which is used to pull them together to push one of them out. I also had to take off the cranks which luckily is a fairly easy process. The non-drive side truvativ gxp firex crank arm just screws off by leaving the outer nut screwed in and unscrewing the inner nut pulls the arm off.

Once the left arm comes off the drive side arm just pulls out. I was then able to adjust the eccentric bottom bracket by using the external bottom bracket tool to rotate the bottom bracket plates until the correct chain tension was achieved. If anyone is going through this process and needs clarification just drop a comment on this page and I'll go into more detail if necessary.

The weight of the bike has been reduced further by adding a carbon seatpost and handlebar from my previous courier bike. I've left the front Avid Juicy 3 disc brake on while I get my head around the subtleties of riding fixed wheel.

My first ride was a 40 mile round trip to Oxford and back and involved three near crashes when I forgot I was riding fixed wheel and nearly stacked it. Other than that I really enjoyed the experience, cornering is really fun and I love the feel of control over the bike and the constant movement of my legs. Hopefully these next few weeks will get me used to the bike before heading back to Australia to resume bicycle courier work. I think this is an almost perfect urban courier bike, it has the all-weather disc brake on the front, its super-light weight, has the required subtle 'bling' factor and hopefully isn't totally nickable.

Bad Boy 8 fixed wheel conversion image


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Charlie The Bikemonger08.09.07 / 7AM

That is a very cool fixie… it looks ruthlessly slick. Great work.

bob30.09.07 / 1AM

Yum! it wasnt a sin and illegal in several states id marry such a device.

Paul07.10.07 / 22PM

Do you still have and pos want to sell the afine hub?
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Craig in Cumbria18.02.08 / 3AM

Hi did you use the original chain My problem is that I have run out of eccentric bottom bracket adjustment on my standard badboy ultra 8
I am unsure of the chain type and size I need a split link but dont know which link would be suitable

Tancredi18.02.08 / 8AM

Craig, just grab yourself another chain. The Ultra 8 uses an Inox chain, 3/32" type (not the 1/8" type found on many track bikes). You'll need to make sure you have this chain width as well as a compatible sized rear cog. No need to buy another Inox, although the chain seems of high quality I found it makes a fair bit of noise and next time I'll get a different brand. Don't buy a cheap chain though, its worth getting something strong and durable.

Have you worked out what gear ratio you want? I was running a 13 tooth cog on the back and it worked well for me although I started on a 14 to get used to riding fixed. I recommend Charlie The BikeMonger for a good friendly source of track cogs and parts.

When you fit the new chain be very careful about how many links to remove. Ideally you'll want to remove enough so that your new chain is fairly tight when your eccentric bottom bracket is in it's most slack position, allowing you to further tighten the chain as it stretches and wears. I've just fitted a new set of cranks and a new chain and cog and the bike is running very nicely indeed.

My only gripe about the eccentric bottom bracket is the noise it makes, a creaking sound which sets in after a few days of use. It can be eliminated by cleaning the bottom bracket and re-greasing but I haven't found a long term solution yet. Let me know if you have the same problems and know of a good solution.

matt03.04.08 / 18PM

Nice work!
I'm contemplating a Bad Boy 8 myself, I wonder if you know how much one weighs? You must have saved a bit of weight on yours by removing the IGH?
Is the creaking bottom bracket a big problem on this model or something that just needs fixing on your bike?
Cheers,
Matt

Tancredi03.04.08 / 20PM

Hi Matt, the Bad Boy is a very beautiful bike and rides extremely well. I think the creaking bottom bracket is a common problem on these types of bike (eccentric bb). I haven't found the right solution to eliminate the creak but cleaning it regularly certainly helps for a while. I believe using some copper based grease may help but I haven't tried it yet.

matt04.04.08 / 20PM

Copper grease should help. I'm not sure of the eccentric b-b construction but you might be able to wrap some plumbers PTFE tape around the b-b cartridge - this might also help?

Re. the weight of your bike, do you know what it is? I'm very tempted by this bike, just want to make sure it's light enough compared to my Trek hybrid (that weighs about 28 lbs / 13 kg with accessories).

Tancredi04.04.08 / 20PM

I've tried wrapping PTFE tape around the bb unit but that didn't help, maybe made it worse if anything. I think the key is to not over-grease it and clean it on a regular basis.

The original weight of the bike was quite heavy due to the hub gears. Once that is stripped away the bike is light as a feather. I'd try one out in a shop to see whether it is going to suit you and to test the relative weight.

matt04.04.08 / 20PM

Yep, I need to try one in a shop; for that money I want to see one before I buy!

High Gas Prices12.05.08 / 8AM

That's a nice looking bike you got there! I have a TREK 4500 Alpha Mountain Bike. Unfortuntely, I don't get to ride it much.

Cycle genius16.05.08 / 1AM

I have just read about your wheels built by Beeline I couldn't disagree anymore, however I do understand this is your opinion however I don't understand why you have been childish to write that they have contacted you regarding the matter. (once again proving they are very realiable and hard working and obviously care about there customer service and reputation!) It's just sad you knocked them at the first hurdle. I have had my bikes built by them for 10 years, they have a superb customer relationship which has continued since the owner passed away with his son now maintaining the relationships, which must have been incredibly hard to do so, I imagine.

Tancredi16.05.08 / 8AM

@Cycle genius, whatever mate, it's my opinion and my experience. I'm sure other people have had good experiences with them. I don't think that beeline contacting me asking me to change something I've written about them makes them hard working and reliable (at least at building wheels) but it does show that they care about their reputation as they well should.

Anyway, you're entitled to say what you want, as am I and I think that any intelligent person can make up their own minds on the matter.

Nav02.07.08 / 6AM

Hi Tancredi,

I really digged your blog as I too am a Cannondale BB Ultra owner. I totally agree about the extra weight of the Alfine hub. It makes the rear end of the bike weigh a ton.

About the creaking BB, I'm having the same problem and it's starting to annoy the hell out of me.

The guy at the Bike shop (Evans in the UK) said that integrated BB bikes are prone to creaking (I wish I knew this earlier) Still the recommendation is to clean it but i'm tempted to have the integrated BB/Cranks replaced.

At present I'm planning on building a wheel with a flip/flop hub but i've no idea about adjusting the BB for chain tensioning.

It seems mighty complex, especially when you consider the relative ease when using a standard chain tensioner.

Another think i've noticed is the BB is threaded real tight.

Anyway i'll send a pic when all is done.

Good luck and ChainReaction cycles rock!!

Jon Linton23.07.08 / 1AM

Hi I just bought an ultegra double crankset from Evans for my Badboy 700 but they say it wont fit on teh frame (despite telling me before i bought it that it would) is there anything bigger than a 48 (preferably a double) I can fit on a Bad boy?

Tancredi23.07.08 / 11AM

Hi Jon, I run a 46 tooth track crankset on my Bad Boy with a 112mm axle on the BB. It only just clears the rear stay by a few millimetres so I don't think anything bigger will really work. You'd have to get a wider axle which would put the chain line out, although this may not be an issue for you if you are running a rear mech and gears.

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